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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.docucrunch.com/irs-wants-more-this-time-from-your-cell-phone/comment-page-1#comment-1358</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a contract employee and the client company supplies me with a Land Line.   I have no control over the &quot;service&quot; or the expense for that Land Line.  I do sometimes use that for personal calls.  I do not see a difference between that and the use of a cell phone, should I pay tax on the percent of use for the Land Line?

If I am to pay tax on the service for my employer provided cell phone usage that tax would be based on the underlying provider and plan my employer decided to use, a decision I have no input in.  If I have to pay tax on 25% then I want to have input in to the provider and plan which the 25% is based upon.

Not too many companies are providing cell phones as incentives; as a matter of fact I believe them to be a disincentive.  If the company is going through the expense of providing a cell phone then they do so expecting that to improve my productivity and to be able to reach me after hours.  They expect a benefit for the company and stock holders not for me.  Lean is the name of the game; if there were not a benefit for the company they would not provide the phone.  Let the employer pay the tax, if they don&#039;t want to pay it then they don&#039;t have to provide the phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a contract employee and the client company supplies me with a Land Line.   I have no control over the &#8220;service&#8221; or the expense for that Land Line.  I do sometimes use that for personal calls.  I do not see a difference between that and the use of a cell phone, should I pay tax on the percent of use for the Land Line?</p>
<p>If I am to pay tax on the service for my employer provided cell phone usage that tax would be based on the underlying provider and plan my employer decided to use, a decision I have no input in.  If I have to pay tax on 25% then I want to have input in to the provider and plan which the 25% is based upon.</p>
<p>Not too many companies are providing cell phones as incentives; as a matter of fact I believe them to be a disincentive.  If the company is going through the expense of providing a cell phone then they do so expecting that to improve my productivity and to be able to reach me after hours.  They expect a benefit for the company and stock holders not for me.  Lean is the name of the game; if there were not a benefit for the company they would not provide the phone.  Let the employer pay the tax, if they don&#8217;t want to pay it then they don&#8217;t have to provide the phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a thought for you.  Why doesn&#039;t the IRS tax congress (individually) on each piece of legislation which they support that spends taxpayer money?  That could slow the bloat of government such that the IRS doesn&#039;t have to nickel and dime taxpayers like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a thought for you.  Why doesn&#8217;t the IRS tax congress (individually) on each piece of legislation which they support that spends taxpayer money?  That could slow the bloat of government such that the IRS doesn&#8217;t have to nickel and dime taxpayers like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget cell phones!  I have a master plan for dealing with the IRS.  It is called Flat Tax.

Let&#039;s say for argument that a Flat Tax would be assessed at 20 percent.

For those of us who work for companies and get a W-2 at the end of the year. The company pays us X wage and 20 percent of it is payed to the government at each paycheck.

At the end of a year (or other deadline) our companies would have already been paid our 20 percent of our X dollars paycheck directly.

This means we (in theory) should not have to file a return if we have no other income because Uncle Sam already has our 20 percent.  Think of how small the IRS would now need to be with 65% of citizens just having their flat tax paid in by the company for which they work.  65% less IRS?  That would save some money right there.

My last penny theory on what is wrong with America (maybe the world?):
The vast majority of congresspersons and senators started as lawyers.  When lawyers go to college they learn to research legal documents to find similar cases on which to argue.  They are not taught much math or science which requires analytical skills.

Also realize that if lawyers are writing contracts or going to trial in civil or criminal cases, the faster a decision is reached the less money they make.  So, lawyers don&#039;t have much in the way of analytical or technology skills.  This makes creating or deciding on technical issues beyond them.

Lastly, lawyers money stream ends with a decision.  This means that don&#039;t make as much money when things get decided, they make money in the debate.  If you doubt this, try to get a no-fault divorce anywhere.  If you and your spouse have it all worked out to your satisfaction, see if a lawyer doesn&#039;t stir the pot and have you screaming at each other in court.  Less money for you, more for both lawyers.

Doctor Digital&#039;s $.02</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget cell phones!  I have a master plan for dealing with the IRS.  It is called Flat Tax.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say for argument that a Flat Tax would be assessed at 20 percent.</p>
<p>For those of us who work for companies and get a W-2 at the end of the year. The company pays us X wage and 20 percent of it is payed to the government at each paycheck.</p>
<p>At the end of a year (or other deadline) our companies would have already been paid our 20 percent of our X dollars paycheck directly.</p>
<p>This means we (in theory) should not have to file a return if we have no other income because Uncle Sam already has our 20 percent.  Think of how small the IRS would now need to be with 65% of citizens just having their flat tax paid in by the company for which they work.  65% less IRS?  That would save some money right there.</p>
<p>My last penny theory on what is wrong with America (maybe the world?):<br />
The vast majority of congresspersons and senators started as lawyers.  When lawyers go to college they learn to research legal documents to find similar cases on which to argue.  They are not taught much math or science which requires analytical skills.</p>
<p>Also realize that if lawyers are writing contracts or going to trial in civil or criminal cases, the faster a decision is reached the less money they make.  So, lawyers don&#8217;t have much in the way of analytical or technology skills.  This makes creating or deciding on technical issues beyond them.</p>
<p>Lastly, lawyers money stream ends with a decision.  This means that don&#8217;t make as much money when things get decided, they make money in the debate.  If you doubt this, try to get a no-fault divorce anywhere.  If you and your spouse have it all worked out to your satisfaction, see if a lawyer doesn&#8217;t stir the pot and have you screaming at each other in court.  Less money for you, more for both lawyers.</p>
<p>Doctor Digital&#8217;s $.02</p>
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		<title>By: Tax Attorney</title>
		<link>http://www.docucrunch.com/irs-wants-more-this-time-from-your-cell-phone/comment-page-1#comment-618</link>
		<dc:creator>Tax Attorney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been active in taxations for lengthier then I care to admit, both on the individualized side (all my employed lifetime!!) and from a legal point of view since satisfying the bar and following tax law. I&#039;ve offered a lot of advice and righted a lot of wrongs, and I must say that what you&#039;ve put up makes impeccable sense. Please persist in the good work - the more people know the better they&#039;ll be outfitted to deal with the tax man, and that&#039;s what it&#039;s all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been active in taxations for lengthier then I care to admit, both on the individualized side (all my employed lifetime!!) and from a legal point of view since satisfying the bar and following tax law. I&#8217;ve offered a lot of advice and righted a lot of wrongs, and I must say that what you&#8217;ve put up makes impeccable sense. Please persist in the good work &#8211; the more people know the better they&#8217;ll be outfitted to deal with the tax man, and that&#8217;s what it&#8217;s all about.</p>
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		<title>By: rjy</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, what is the tax going to pay for exactly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, what is the tax going to pay for exactly?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Shafer</title>
		<link>http://www.docucrunch.com/irs-wants-more-this-time-from-your-cell-phone/comment-page-1#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Shafer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s cut to the chase: ABOLISH THE IRS as it currently is and go with a national sales tax. Keep some portion of the current IRS staff on to handle the national sales tax and the rest can actually go do something productive instead of facilitating the theft of wealth from those that do.

Since the criminals and incompetents in Congress won&#039;t show restraint and balance a reasonable budget let&#039;s take away the universal purse of screwing (taxing that is) the middle class and small business to death while the other two ends of the financial spectrum pay nothing and get handouts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s cut to the chase: ABOLISH THE IRS as it currently is and go with a national sales tax. Keep some portion of the current IRS staff on to handle the national sales tax and the rest can actually go do something productive instead of facilitating the theft of wealth from those that do.</p>
<p>Since the criminals and incompetents in Congress won&#8217;t show restraint and balance a reasonable budget let&#8217;s take away the universal purse of screwing (taxing that is) the middle class and small business to death while the other two ends of the financial spectrum pay nothing and get handouts.</p>
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		<title>By: Not so fast: IRS backtracks on cell phone tax &#124; DocuCrunch.com</title>
		<link>http://www.docucrunch.com/irs-wants-more-this-time-from-your-cell-phone/comment-page-1#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Not so fast: IRS backtracks on cell phone tax &#124; DocuCrunch.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we reported last week, the IRS proposed a plan to start enforcing a 20-year-old law that classifies personal [...]</description>
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		<title>By: C. Bampton</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. Bampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is completely outrageous on so many levels.  The time wasted in government just thinking about something like this is pure stupidity.  But it seems extremely consistent with all the other socialist proposals going on in Washington these days.
Our President (and I use that term loosely and with great anxiety), and our Democrat majority Congress have but one agenda.  Stick their hand in your wallet if you make more money than a GD postal worker, and give your money to the lower class in order to raise the bar for the lower class, eventually eliminating the middle class.  We&#039;ll have two classes, the extremely wealthy, and the poor.  Sound like any countries you&#039;ve heard of before? 

The scheme is this, the lower class are inherently under educated as a group, and easy to entice into entitlement programs (I;m not stereotyping, this is history).  Ultimately, if they have their way, big government will be the only wealthy left among us, and the lower class will be led around by their food stamps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is completely outrageous on so many levels.  The time wasted in government just thinking about something like this is pure stupidity.  But it seems extremely consistent with all the other socialist proposals going on in Washington these days.<br />
Our President (and I use that term loosely and with great anxiety), and our Democrat majority Congress have but one agenda.  Stick their hand in your wallet if you make more money than a GD postal worker, and give your money to the lower class in order to raise the bar for the lower class, eventually eliminating the middle class.  We&#8217;ll have two classes, the extremely wealthy, and the poor.  Sound like any countries you&#8217;ve heard of before? </p>
<p>The scheme is this, the lower class are inherently under educated as a group, and easy to entice into entitlement programs (I;m not stereotyping, this is history).  Ultimately, if they have their way, big government will be the only wealthy left among us, and the lower class will be led around by their food stamps.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think quite a few of us employees (hard working Americans) could tell the government how to get more money for our economic means without taxing the hell out of the hard working individuals paying their salaries.

1.  Quit bailing out big industry and letting them use our tax dollars for their luxury items and vacations.  I&#039;m quite certain there are plenty of Americans who would like to know just what an all expense paid vacation feels like... hell I&#039;d just like to know what a vacation feels like.

2.  Quit paying such high wages to government officials... let the people vote their pay raises... hell me, as well as every white collar worker in America would love to vote in our next pay raise.  It really sucks when you have a government official voting his self a 30% pay raise yet he doesn&#039;t want to give a soldier even 3%... where is the justice in that?  When was the last time a government official was willing to put his life on the line for someone he/she doesn&#039;t even know?  Stop the retirement pay to government officials..if you didn&#039;t spend 20 years on the job you sure as hell don&#039;t deserve for us to be paying for your comfort for the rest of your life.  You have elderly men and women with nothing who poured their sweat and tears into a hard life of work and now have nothing; yet we have no problem paying a government official (that only spent six years on the job) half his/her pay (with the raises he/she voted in) for the rest of their lives.  Talk about something for nothing!!! (try enforcing the Economy Act of &#039;33)

3.  Start taxing the crap out of imports into this country.. if a business leaves the USA because they can make something cheaper in another country where they do not have to meet OSHA, EPA or labor standards that are imposed on domestic manufactures then impose an OSHA/EPA/Labor tax in addition to all other taxes on their import.. don&#039;t make it profitable for them to take the jobs away from hard working Americans... if a product doesn&#039;t meet American standards...tax it... keep the crap out of this country or at least make it so they compete on equal ground with our manufactures.

4.  Stop spending money we don&#039;t have...  You can not keep spending money that isn&#039;t in the bank and then wonder about the debt... You hear all these people making comments about the working class that&#039;s losing their homes or cars that they shouldn&#039;t have spent beyond their means.  A lot of these individuals were in their means until the company they worked for cut them lose and moved production to a third world country so they could produce a lower quality item at a third of the price but still keep the same name on it.  Guess what?  The government is spending beyond their means only they doing it with every tax payers signature on the line.

5.  Bring back the CWA (Civil Works Administration) and WPA (Works Progress Administration.  Get rid of welfare.  If you want assistance and are not already working a job then you should be willing to work for it, even if that means cleaning the sides of the roads or digging ditches.  If you aren&#039;t willing to work, you aren&#039;t willing to eat off my tax dollar.  Assistance should be equal across the board and not based on sex or color.  Single dads need assistance just the same as single mothers and Americans are Americans doesn&#039;t matter their race or heritage..if they are truly in need of assistance and willing to work then by all means give them the assistance.  NOTE:  Welfare was meant as assistance/aid/help not as a means of existance.

6.  Stop paying to rebuild other countries... This is one I&#039;ve never understood... We helped rebuild Japan after the war, why????  Can anyone tell me the economics in that?  We spend tax money to fight an enemy that attacks us on our own soil and then spend more tax money to rebuild their country.  Did they ever pay to help rebuild our country (they did bomb Pearl Harbor)?  I don&#039;t recall learning about a big pay out from Japan in my American History class.  I&#039;d also like to add something here... don&#039;t start something we aren&#039;t willing to finish..  (I say this from the stand point of an ex-soldier and proud mother of a US Marine).  Don&#039;t go into a country saying you are there to help their innocent citizens and then pull out before the job is done... many civilians put their lives on the line to back America and when we leave before the job is done they are the ones left to suffer the consequences... it&#039;s all well and good for a government official to get voted in on the platform of brining our children home but what are the consequences of doing that before the job is done, not just to the civilians and refugees that supported us in our efforts but to our country?  Don&#039;t spend our tax money and risk our families lives if you aren&#039;t willing to finish the job because the soldiers are the ones on the front lines, they are the ones seeing the innocent people they are protecting and fighting for, they want to finish their job.  

NOTE:  The American Revolution (Boston Tea Party) was based on taxation without representation... there is way more of that going on in this country now than there was back then.  Why are we so willing to accept it now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think quite a few of us employees (hard working Americans) could tell the government how to get more money for our economic means without taxing the hell out of the hard working individuals paying their salaries.</p>
<p>1.  Quit bailing out big industry and letting them use our tax dollars for their luxury items and vacations.  I&#8217;m quite certain there are plenty of Americans who would like to know just what an all expense paid vacation feels like&#8230; hell I&#8217;d just like to know what a vacation feels like.</p>
<p>2.  Quit paying such high wages to government officials&#8230; let the people vote their pay raises&#8230; hell me, as well as every white collar worker in America would love to vote in our next pay raise.  It really sucks when you have a government official voting his self a 30% pay raise yet he doesn&#8217;t want to give a soldier even 3%&#8230; where is the justice in that?  When was the last time a government official was willing to put his life on the line for someone he/she doesn&#8217;t even know?  Stop the retirement pay to government officials..if you didn&#8217;t spend 20 years on the job you sure as hell don&#8217;t deserve for us to be paying for your comfort for the rest of your life.  You have elderly men and women with nothing who poured their sweat and tears into a hard life of work and now have nothing; yet we have no problem paying a government official (that only spent six years on the job) half his/her pay (with the raises he/she voted in) for the rest of their lives.  Talk about something for nothing!!! (try enforcing the Economy Act of &#8216;33)</p>
<p>3.  Start taxing the crap out of imports into this country.. if a business leaves the USA because they can make something cheaper in another country where they do not have to meet OSHA, EPA or labor standards that are imposed on domestic manufactures then impose an OSHA/EPA/Labor tax in addition to all other taxes on their import.. don&#8217;t make it profitable for them to take the jobs away from hard working Americans&#8230; if a product doesn&#8217;t meet American standards&#8230;tax it&#8230; keep the crap out of this country or at least make it so they compete on equal ground with our manufactures.</p>
<p>4.  Stop spending money we don&#8217;t have&#8230;  You can not keep spending money that isn&#8217;t in the bank and then wonder about the debt&#8230; You hear all these people making comments about the working class that&#8217;s losing their homes or cars that they shouldn&#8217;t have spent beyond their means.  A lot of these individuals were in their means until the company they worked for cut them lose and moved production to a third world country so they could produce a lower quality item at a third of the price but still keep the same name on it.  Guess what?  The government is spending beyond their means only they doing it with every tax payers signature on the line.</p>
<p>5.  Bring back the CWA (Civil Works Administration) and WPA (Works Progress Administration.  Get rid of welfare.  If you want assistance and are not already working a job then you should be willing to work for it, even if that means cleaning the sides of the roads or digging ditches.  If you aren&#8217;t willing to work, you aren&#8217;t willing to eat off my tax dollar.  Assistance should be equal across the board and not based on sex or color.  Single dads need assistance just the same as single mothers and Americans are Americans doesn&#8217;t matter their race or heritage..if they are truly in need of assistance and willing to work then by all means give them the assistance.  NOTE:  Welfare was meant as assistance/aid/help not as a means of existance.</p>
<p>6.  Stop paying to rebuild other countries&#8230; This is one I&#8217;ve never understood&#8230; We helped rebuild Japan after the war, why????  Can anyone tell me the economics in that?  We spend tax money to fight an enemy that attacks us on our own soil and then spend more tax money to rebuild their country.  Did they ever pay to help rebuild our country (they did bomb Pearl Harbor)?  I don&#8217;t recall learning about a big pay out from Japan in my American History class.  I&#8217;d also like to add something here&#8230; don&#8217;t start something we aren&#8217;t willing to finish..  (I say this from the stand point of an ex-soldier and proud mother of a US Marine).  Don&#8217;t go into a country saying you are there to help their innocent citizens and then pull out before the job is done&#8230; many civilians put their lives on the line to back America and when we leave before the job is done they are the ones left to suffer the consequences&#8230; it&#8217;s all well and good for a government official to get voted in on the platform of brining our children home but what are the consequences of doing that before the job is done, not just to the civilians and refugees that supported us in our efforts but to our country?  Don&#8217;t spend our tax money and risk our families lives if you aren&#8217;t willing to finish the job because the soldiers are the ones on the front lines, they are the ones seeing the innocent people they are protecting and fighting for, they want to finish their job.  </p>
<p>NOTE:  The American Revolution (Boston Tea Party) was based on taxation without representation&#8230; there is way more of that going on in this country now than there was back then.  Why are we so willing to accept it now?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bollinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Bollinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still have my personal cell phone.  Does this mean that I don’t need it anymore and I can spend up to 25% of my time on personal business if I use the company cell phone, or that I can get a personal tax break if I keep it. (just kidding)..  Personally, I object to my government wasting my tax dollars pursing things like this that will reduce productivity and add overhead costs to my employer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still have my personal cell phone.  Does this mean that I don’t need it anymore and I can spend up to 25% of my time on personal business if I use the company cell phone, or that I can get a personal tax break if I keep it. (just kidding)..  Personally, I object to my government wasting my tax dollars pursing things like this that will reduce productivity and add overhead costs to my employer.</p>
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